| Dr Mohd Razali Ibrahim, YOU are a Sickening Muslim and a Disgrace to Islam for Fearing to Face the Truth |
There were 4 deaths in custody in 2009 where the details of the deceased and the fact of the death in custody became publicly known.
Flip-flop on everything from the cops is nothing new. The newest disease to afflict them is confusion. Of late, cops have depicted enormous skills in getting entangled in situations which seem to only complicate issues rather than resolving them.
Not surprisingly, most of these situations are creations of their own. The situations arise through issues like jurisdictional wrangles and mutual retributions among senior officers, mischief of some. Not surprisingly, again, it leaves them in soup. Not surprisingly, yet again, the result is hilarious.
The latest example is the case in which different incidents took place in the jurisdictions of four police stations with cops from three being directly involved. The incident, initially reported at Jaripatka police station, would have gone unnoticed had the mother of the alleged accused not alerted the control room about her son’s ‘abduction’ from the jurisdiction of Kalamna police station.
The news spread among the cops and media before the Pachpaoli police chased and nabbed the culprits in the jurisdiction of Yashodhara Nagar police station. Finally, the situation came to the point that the complainant of the Jaripatka police station were the accused of kidnapping in Kalamna and the complainant of Kalamna was the accused in Jaripatka. All this on a single day. Not surprisingly, it was a senior police sub-inspector’s folly that led to the complicated situation.
Two years ago, the Yashodhara Nagar police station was in the news after nabbing a man for committing his ‘own’ murder. The then senior inspector Uday Singh Chandel was left flabbergasted after realizing that the murderer had deftly swapped his clothes with the victim. The culprit had also inserted his identity card into the pocket of the victim to mislead the cops.
In another recent case, the cops had to wrack their brains before coming to a conclusion. The youngest son had got his parents killed with the help of a sarpamitra who released a cobra that bit the couple. Firstly, the cops had no clue how and where to seize the ‘murder weapon’. Secondly, it took some convincing before the rural police agreed to take up case. The couple was picked up from their house in the outskirts of the city and ‘killed with the snake’ while travelling to Yavatmal.
In another incident, cops of Dhantoli, Sadar and Sonegaon police stations saw themselves being dragged into the same case. A bunch of miscreants first picked up a fight and robbed a pedestrian before fleeing with their vehicle from a petrol pump. Later, they drove into another car before themselves ending up on the Wardha Road divider.
The cops also had a harrowing time deciding whether Sitabuldi or Rana Pratap police station should conduct the probe where a man’s body was found or where the accident took place.
The cake for creating confusion should go to the Government Railway Police. When a theft is committed, the first question the cops ask is at which station did the passenger go to sleep and where did he wake up. On this basis the jurisdiction is decided. It doesn’t end there. If the Nagpur GRP registers a case and sends it to Bhopal, the cops in MP would send another to Nagpur the following day. The fun, quite obviously, continues at the expense of the victim.
Kugan, who died in the Taipan police station in January.
Gnanapragasam, who died in the Sri Damansara police station in June.
Teoh Beng Hock.
And Gunasegaran.
Gunasegaran’s stood out from the others in one very important detail.
Four individuals detained together with Gunasegaran witnessed events leading up to Guna’s death.
Unlike the other three cases, in Guna’s case, there were eye witness accounts that, it would turn out, materially contradicted the official account proffered by the police auhorities.
As efforts were made in late July and early August last year to put together a team to try and get at the truth surrounding Guna’s death, it became obvious early on that these eye witnesses would need to be ‘protected’, lest they be ‘got to’, to change their ‘story’.
That task fell on the shoulders of one person who chooses to remain unknown. I shall call him X.
Sure, enough, on the night of the very day that Visva successfully got an order of the High Court in August last year, based on the sworn testimony of 3 of those 4 eyewitnesses, for a second post mortem and an inquest into Guna’s death, Selvach, one of the three, got word that the police wanted him in for questioning in relation to a police report said to have been lodged against him in relation to a family quarrel.
Selvach alerted X of this and the next day, a solicitor was arranged to accompany Selvach to the Wangsa Maju police station to offer his statement in relation to that alleged report.
Nothing came of this.
We assured Selvach that if at any time he was harassed or intimidated by the police, he should contact X and every effort would be made to give him protection.
Now, since that episode, Selvach never called X to ask for any help in relation to any intimidation, arrest or harassment by the police.
You will also note that in Visva’s submissions that I referred to in my ‘New brooms…’ post, Visva had said, of Selvach :
Saksi ini memberi keterangan bahawa pada 16.7.2009 beliau juga ditahan bersama simati dan 4 yang lain. Saksi ini telah dilepaskan pihak polis keranaujian urin beliau negative pada petang hari tersebut.
Selvach was released on the same day of the arrest, 16th July, 2009, because his urine sample tested negative for any drugs.
Now if he had gotten into any trouble with the law, or if he had had another run-in with the police, I’m certain he would have been in touch with X for help.
There was no such call to X prior to Selvach’s arrest last Monday night, after the coroner had delivered her verdict earlier in the day.
To the best of our knowledge, then, Selvach had no further ‘problem’ with the law.
So why was Selvach beaten and arrested that night, and why is he being held?
Selvach could have refused to have anything to do with the inquest proceedings, to spare himself any trouble with the police.
He did not.
He stepped forward and told the truth.
Is that why he is being held now?
Because he dared to speak up?
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Please come and Join us to seek justice for Selvach
PROTEST MEMO TO IGP ON 30TH OCTOBER 2010
The trauma caused to the children is unimaginable and in gross violation of international norms on the protection of children. In a twisted perversion of conjugal love, police personnel tried to make Selvach’s wife S.Saraswathy kiss him before beating him up in front of her. Selvach, who did his duty as a citizen by telling the truth at the Gunasegaran inquest, is now being held at an unknown location with no access to his family or lawyers. It is believed that he is being detained without trial under the Emergency Ordinance. The outrage done against Selvach and his family is only the latest in a long series of police brutality cases going back into and beyond the Mahathir despotism.
WE FREE CITIZENS OF THIS NATION MUST MAKE A STAND AGAINST THE PREVAILING POLICE AND STATE VIOLENCE ! JOIN US FOR THE HANDING OVER OF A PROTEST MEMORANDUM TO THE IGP.
The details as below:
Date: 30 October 2010
Time: 10am
Place: BUKIT AMAN FEDERAL POLICE HQ ( LAKE GARDEN ENTRANCE ).
Hospital Kuala Lumpur (HKL) general surgeon Dr Mohd Razali Ibrahim REFUSED to look at the clinical notes taken despite NOT remembering parts of Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan's three-hour medical examination he and two other doctors took on June 28, 2008.
Dr Razali was badgered with several questions by senior lawyer Karpal Singh, who sought to entice him to refer to the clinical notes.
At Anwar Ibrahim's sodomy trial Dr Razali persistently refused to take a look at the notes made by him or the other two doctors who had examined Saiful.
Despite some uncertain answers, and being urged by Karpal many times, Dr Razali REFUSED to look at the clinical notes to help jog his memory.
Karpal Singh had resorted this after High Court judge Mohamad Zabidin Mohd Diah had earlier rejected the defence's application to obtain the clinical notes, but allowed its application to have a copy of the preliminary examination report, which was dated July 10, 2008.
Karpal had to ask pointed questions in an attempt to glean information from the clinical notes, but on ALL occasions during the 30-minute questioning, Dr Razali repeatedly refused to refer to the report.
“We cannot force you to look but may persuade gently,” Karpal said at times to Dr Razali.
Normally, witnesses who cannot remember details of a particular incident are allowed by the court to refer to the notes they made on that case.
On more than one occasion, solicitor-general II Mohd Yusof Zainal Abiden had objected to Karpal's line of questioning.Karpal pointed out that the full medical report which was dated July 13, 2008, has only two lines on Saiful's medical history.
He argued that there certainly was much more on the matter during the doctors' three-hour examination of the complainant.
All three doctors - hey had Dr Razali, clinical pathologist Dr Siew Sheue Feng and Dr Khairul Nizam Hassan - said texamined Saiful from 9pm and to slightly after midnight on July 29.
Asked by Karpal whether he knew that Saiful was inspected earlier at the Pusrawi Hospital, Dr Razali said he knew there was an examination but did not know who or how many physicians had attended to the complainant.
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- Assalamualaikum wbt Dr Razali... semoga hentikan kelakuan yang memalukan diri doktor, mak bapa doktor, keluarga doktor, bangsa melayu, orang Islam dan kerjaya doktor perubatan. Ingat Allah dan sebagai doktor ingat mati.
- Come on Dr, don't put your race to shame! Your incompetency will make others doubtful of what entrance qualification you had to study your medical degree, and how low quality is our country's own 'specialist' standard; no wonder we decide not to recognise MRCP anymore!
- Dr Razali, you are not answerable to Kapal Singh, Anuar Ibrahim or Justice Zabidin or any mortal being in this earth. Damn it, you are answerable to Allah. Tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Allah shall protect and guide you and your family for akhirat. All those worldly things is only temporary but the akhirat is real like being born and death. Be a man of principle if you are the true believer of Allah and follower of Prophet Muhammad. You are special if you tell the truth. Believe me, I had faced the same situation and I am relieved that I had passed my test. Thanks to guidance of Allah. Yes Sir you have choice to tell the TRUTH or NOT. The truth will prevail and if you lie, think of your family that may succumb to your choice.
- This is called Malaysian Justice..Defence cannot be given anything.If this case was in England it would have been thrown out long ago
- The integrity of the medical fraternity in this country is brought to disrepute by Razali's action. What is the Malaysian Medical Council going to do about this? Nothing. As long as it is filled with doctors with ties to the government, you can bet your bottom dollar that they are going to be as effective and honest as the prosecuting team.
- Dr Razali, you are not answerable to Kapal Singh, Anuar Ibrahim or Justice Zabidin or any mortal being in this earth. Damn it, you are answerable to Allah. Tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Allah shall protect and guide you and your family for akhirat. All those worldly things is only temporary but the akhirat is real like being born and death. Be a man of principle if you are the true believer of Allah and follower of Prophet Muhammad. You are special if you tell the truth. Believe me, I had faced the same situation and I am relieved that I had passed my test. Thanks to guidance of Allah. Yes Sir you have choice to tell the TRUTH or NOT. The truth will prevail and if you lie, think of your family that may succumb to your choice.
- Razali you are not sitting for the SPM Exams to be afraid to refer to notes that you yourself wrote.. This is about you as a witness giving evidence in a court of law stupid. Where were you schooled anyway?. You are a STUPID IDIOTIC NUT OF THE FIRST ORDER.
- Today you are facing Karpal and those present in court but from this day on, you will face the people's court and at the end of your days, there is the court of final judgement. You have been given a chance to redeem yourself. Will you do it, tomorrow? It is never too late.
- Oh my god!!! First our DPM said he cannot take action against a headmistress, now.. we have ajudge that said he can't order or instruct a witness to refer to the report.. oh my, my!!!
- What shameful conduct from the doctor, the DPP and the judge? Disgusting situation in a country I call my own. Does not the AG realise that he is a joke internationally. But it does bring home the point that the BN/UMNO government is terrified of Anwar's PKR leading the charge in the next GE.
- Dr. Razali, I don't know what medical school you went to but i'm quite sure your medical training is not very complete or up to date. You probably were'nt taught about Bioethics when you were a student doctor. Doctors are taught about the four sacred bioethical principals which are 1) Autonomy, 2) Beneficence, 3) Non-maleficence and most importantly 4) Justice- the consequences of your actions must be fair to the patient or to the wider community. None of this ring a bell? You were probably brought up on Biro Tata Negara brainwashing then.... Please do not bring shame to your noble profession, doctor razali.
- Cant remember the details but steadfastly refused to refer to his own clinical notes. This is something extraordinary. Many of those in the medical profession especially in govt sector is compromised as suspected by the public. Is it reasonable not to refer to your own notes if you cant remember them exactly?
- Dr Razali's face exposes the true nature of this person--a totally untrusted and a congenital liar. I dont know how he can become a medical doctor-- a disgrace to the noble profession. He cant remember the details but at the same time refuse to look at the clinical notes. A clear cut case of conspiracy.
- This must be the first time in any court of law that the court is not interested in finding out the truth. In any fair system, the judge would have ordered the witness to refer to the notes, presumably made by him, to jog his memory or at least ensure that his testimony and his contemporaneous notes are consistent, and therefore the witness is credible. Here in Bolehland, the judge refuses admission of the notes and allows the witness to insist he cannot remember while the notes are there but all parties are forced to close their eyes to it.How can a judge refuse the defence the clinical notes in cross-examination? How can the judge and the witness both collaborate to the exclusion of the evidence by simply refusing to refer to it? This sandiwara (theatre) is becoming too obvious.
- Why is the prosecution not tendering the initial medical report signed by three doctors, but the final medical report only? Was there something to hide? If Mongolian national Altantuya Shaariibuu's entry into the country could be erased from immigration records at the airport, anything could be done to a government hospital's records. This is 1Malaysia Boleh.
- Deny, deny. So what is in the notes that it cannot be made public? Somebody tried to manufacture something and is worried that it may give away something? If not, it should be open to all. Equal access to all evidence - that's a fundamental principle of natural justice.
- Access to the clinical notes was not in the script given to the judge. He is so afraid the defence get their hands on it. Even a one-year-old kid can tell this whole trial is being run using Umno's script.
- This is an absolutely ludicrous case and a bunch of highly-paid actors doing the bidding of a puppet master. Unfortunately, it is the rakyat who will be bearing the costs. Each day, the case drags, more venom and hate is being spat at the perpetrators who orchestrated the charge.
- Ini bermakna lapuran awal ini telah diubah oleh mereka atas arahan atasan. Mereka sengaja tidak memberikan laporan ini pada awal dengan harapan Karpal Singh akan 'overlook' dan mereka mengatur permainan ini mengikut rentak Karpal. Anwar Ibrahim, saya amat simpati dengan apa yang berlaku.
- What is wrong with these Umno judges? Anything that Anwar requests is denied. Why this hide-and-seek game? This is simply disgusting.
- I cannot imagine what kind of trial this is. Is this a private trial or a public one run by the government ? Everything is so secretive and hush-hush. It is obvious they have something to hide. Are the prosecutors working for Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan or the government, or both?
- I have never supported Anwar, but come on, PM Najib Razak, let us win the next general elections like gentlemen. This is not good for my children.
- This trial is no longer a joke. It sickens me to read that all requests by Anwar's lawyers are denied time and again. Where is the rule of law? What justice is this? How can one defend oneself when the judge is so biased and aligned with the prosecution? Imagine playing football where the referee is always favouring the other side. You'll have no chance at all.
- The court decision was made long ago in Putrajaya. All these actors are there to "draw the concentric circles for the target, after the arrow has been shot. This is justice for those who oppose them.
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