August 14, 2009
Racialist Rais check your history before you you start to con the malaysian, historical perspective there can be no malay claim wither!malays are not the peoples of the peninsula but are immigrants to Malaya and the Nusantara
complete denial is justified by the bn mps due to the uniqueness of malaysianthe infringement on human rights in malaysia
| Rais: Wrong to say ISA not up to standard of humanity KUALA LUMPUR (April 13, 2009) : The misconception that the Internal Security Act (ISA) is not up to the standard of humanity is wrong, said newly-appointed Information, Communication, Art and Culture Minister Datuk Seri Dr Rais Yatim today.
He said there was a process ofhabeas corpus where the operation of law operated on the person detained under the ISA, to apply to court and prove himself free from all blame against him. “But that part has not been described by anybody. The mechanism that we have under the ISA, specifically Section 8 and 73, can be challenged through the process of habeas corpus, which system is also prevailent here, and therefore, to say that the ISA is not up to the standard of humanity is wrong,” he said during an interview on talkshow ‘Hardtalk‘ aired by BBC. On why the law allowed indefinite detention without charge or trial, Rais replied that it was not indefinite as the Malaysian Government used a 60-day detention period, (just) like the Terrorism Act in Britian where suspects were held in detention for up to 21 days. The former foreign minister was also asked on the detention of blogger-cum-journalist Raja Petra Kamaruddin. He explained that the blogger was detained not because he was a terrorist but on the grounds that he was prejudicial to the security of the law in the country. Asked whether the ISA would be reformed or repealed, Rais said he believed that at one point, the Act would gradually develop into something which would be more compatible with the allowances demanded by the international community. “The ISA was a graduation from the 1948 law given by the British…at that time, Malaya was subject to the guerilla war, the environment at that time, so it has developed into a system where it now became questionable to many people. “We will take that challenge and we will gradually work it out to a point where the ISA must be amended at one point in the future,” he said. On Umno, Rais said that although there were certains defects in the party, the mechanism of improvement was there. “Not all things are excellent inside, but (Tun) Dr Mahathir Mohamad, our former prime minister is coming back to the party to help, not to be engaged in executive function,” he said. He also dismissed talk that the sodomy charge against PKR advisor Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim was one of Umno’s way to deal with its opponents. On the New Economic Policy which was said to be more favourable to the Malays, Rais said Malaysia’s current Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak would take the best possible way to handle the matter. – BERNAMA |
the infringement on human rights in malaysia and at times its total and complete denial is justified by the bn mps due to the uniqueness of malaysian
BACKLASH was instantaneous when Information, Communications and Culture Minister Datuk Seri Dr Rais Yatimannounced on 7 Aug 2009 that the Malaysian government was planning to filter the internet.
Apparently modelled after China’s Green Damsoftware, Rais said the Malaysian filter was intended to weed out online smut, especially where children were concerned.
“Those who call themselves liberals should look at what has happened to other countries who have become victims, where child sex occurs and pornography is widespread,” Rais said.
Barely hours after Rais’s statement, none other than Prime Minister Datuk SeriNajib Razaksaid that the government wouldnot censor the internet. He said such a move would be ineffective in a borderless world where information flows freely. “If we put a form of control, the people cannot accept it,” he said.
Finally after much heat, Rais himself backed down on 12 Aug, saying the government would scrap its internet filtering plan. However, Rais said that the government would use existing laws to prevent internet abuse.
Rais Yatim, member of Umno Supreme Council came to Hadi’s help to criticize Nik Aziz as being exposing the true colours of most of the Malay leaders from the opposition who were not sincere in fighting for Islam as religion of harmony and unity, they simply pay lip-service with empty rhetoric. Hadi Awang and his deputy Nasharudin Mat Isa were categorized as far-sighted leaders while others were just practicing populist politics. Their supports of the idea of unity government were praised as valuable measure taken by the respected statesmen. The “boneka” images of those who had supported the idea were moulded by the champion propagandist of UMNOmno himself.
These umnoputra guys ceases to amaze me with their stupidity. First he said the internet filter was to stop porno only and when the rakyat objected, he backtracked and let the cat out of the bag by saying they will “look for instances of sedition, fraud and child pornography.” I say, if you want to muzzle and stop the rakyat from getting the truth from the internet, say so lah. What a dumb piece of shit!
PAS should think long and hard whether to keep this guy around
Rais has decided to stoop so low into the politics of race to win his Vice Presidency.
MALAY POLITICS NEEDS STRENGTHENING THROUGH NUMBERS – RAIS
(Bernama) Umno Supreme Council member Datuk Seri Dr Rais Yatim has called for the strengthening of Malay politics through numbers so that other races will stop denigrating and ridiculing the Malays.
He said that of late, too many sneers were aimed at disgracing the Malays as though the race had lost dignity and direction.
“Many Malays feel offended with such scornful remarks but there are also many who do not care and let the indigenous polemics be mocked in their own political platforms,” he said.
Rais, who is also foreign minister, said this in a keynote address at a forum on legal issues and indigenous rights in the constitution at the Tun Hussein Onn Memorial here Sunday.
“The white men were roused by a mere instinct of self-preservation….. until at last there had sprung into existence a great Ku Klux Klan, a veritable empire of the South, to protect the Southern country.”
- Woodrow Wilson
He said the Malays should know their history which could serve as a guide in their political struggle.
“History can be deemed a major factor which strengthens the argument that the Malays or Malay stock were the first to reside in the Malay States which the world knew as Malaya or Land of the Malays,” added Rais.
On genetics, its has been proven by dna studies that the people of the nusantara have 19% Indian genes,But at least you got one thing right in stating that ‘Malay supremacy is actually the sovereignity and privileges of the Malay Rulers’.not
He said, what was perceived as Malay supremacy, was actually the sovereignity and privileges of the Malay Rulers.
On the first two counts malays are not the peoples of the peninsula but are immigrants to Malaya and the Nusantara. Prima facie, the Orang Asli are the bumiputras of the Nusantara and all the rest are immigrants. Their claim goes back to 65,000 years ago.
The last were the British. Before that the Japanese and Thais. Before that the Dutch and Portugese. The Thais were influencing the northern states all along and receiving tributes or Bunga Emas. Before that Paramesvara of Palembang and PekanBaru and the Malacca sultanate. During that time Malacca was a tributary/colony of China.
Before that it was Majapahit. Before that Sri Vijaya. Before that it was the Cholas of India for 150 years in the 10th -11th century. Chinesee records say the Cholas defeated 30 cities in the Peninsula, mostly Kadaram or Kedah.
At the same time some Chams arrived in Kelantan and Trengganu. And some from Pattani moved south. All along there were migrations.
Before that it was Kadaram (Kedah) for one millenia according to Sanusi Junid, going back to 50BCE!
As we can see all along this periods people of the nusantara moved about in this region and many settled. At the same time the Indians and Chinese are coming here regularly, trading and just passing by, and at the same time settling. Nobody asked for citizenship papers. there was no one to issue it too. There was no concept of nation-state. Malacca was a big pasar borong for people from all over asia, then europe too.
When the Malaya peninsula is sitting right in between gigantic China and India, what do you expect?
If people of the Nusantara migrated to Malaya, then let us see the larger picture that Indians and chinese see the whole of Asia as their nusantara, and they traversed and settled in these regions for over two millenia! If malaya is a part of the Indonesian/Malay nusantara, then all of asia is a part of the Indian and Chinese ‘nusantara’. Yes, Asia is their Nusantara. Same logic applies.
The modern concept of nation state began in europe after the revolutions, and citizenship became important when elections were introduced in Britain for the first time. Before that Angles, Saxons and Normans just moved about here and there and settled wherever they liked.
After each invasion or ruler the demographics changed perceptibly. The most changes were after the British took over Malacca in 1824. At that time the population was only 16,000, and the census shows that that were about half were Indians and Chinese.
From the 50s to the 70s, nearly 2 million Indonesians migrated illegally and claimed citizenship. If this is not migration of malays toMalaya, then what is? The history of the last 170 years is a vindication of a history of Indonesians migrating to Malaya, and chinese andindias too migrating to British Straits Settlement AS AGREED by the sultans on the advice of the British Residents. Now do the rulers and their malay subjects wish to go back on their agreement?
The chinese and indians arriving here did not take anything from the malays. Heck most of them had never seen a malay in their entire lives. all three communities led separate and cloistered lives and hardly intermingling. As far as the Indians and Chinese were concerned the British were the rulers and masters of the land, and NOT the malays who were traveling back and forth to Sumatra. As far as the Chinese and Indians they came to British territory, and their dealings were only with the British.
Penang, Malacca and Singapore were crown territories, not colonies. It has nothing to do with the malays or malay sultans. The Straits Settlements were British lands, not malay lands. In the Federated malay States the British were Advisors and Residents. FMS were not British colonies! The FMS IS malay lands, and here Syed, your contetion is quite right!
On the other hand the Unfederated Malay States (UFMS) of Perlis, Kedah, Kelantan and Trengganu were taken over from the Thais over to the British. It really had nothing to do with the malays but the British decided to accept it as ‘protected states’ and not ‘colonies’ although they had every reason to do so. But granted, these 4 states are also ‘malay lands’. However, the chinese and Indians had already penetrated these 4 states for economic reasons as the Thais who were the rulers allowed it.
If malays have a problem, they have a problem with the British and the Thais, and NOT with the chinese and indians. the malays should take up the issues with the Thais and British.
If settling, invasion and conquering is the basis of peoples of the land, as the peoples of the nusantara were too, then one must also accept the Britsh invasion, conquering, settling and repopulating! These are British Lands! Not Malay lands!
If the malay rulers moved from Malacca and settled in various states and peopled it, that is the same basis as the British! On a invade, conquer and settling basis.
Be that as it may, when it came to withdraw from the region, instead of the messy SS, FMS and UFMS, the British decided to amalgamate 3 nations into one Malayan Union or Federated Malaya. The Malay rulers and malays accepted it! Along with the chinese and indian populations. That was the condition of amalgamation of three nations and independence!
Our forefathers when receiving independence accepted it on a ‘as is basis’. That means we accept the situation as it is, a one nation peopled by many races and it equally belongs to all! That was the basis of the Malayan Union If malaysians are unhappy with these ar can be transmigrated to Penang, malacca and Singapore and the malays can be free of non malays to do what they like.
rangements then we must undo the SS, FMS and the UFMS. In this way the non malays
can be transmigrated to Penang, malacca and Singapore and the malays can be free of non malays to do what they like.
Incidentally, the British kept alive the concept of Sovereign British Territory of the Straits Settlement until 1972. Anyone born in Penang, Malacca and Singapore on or before 1972 could apply for automatic British citizenship with right of domicle!! It was some years later in the late 70s they withdrew this privilege. This means the British recognised all peoples of the Straits Settlements as British subjects. The problem is most non malays in the 50s and 60s never thought it was necessary to migrate to UK. They bought the view spread by our forefathers and politicians that malaysia would be for all people equally, and all would be free to perpetuate their cultures as they see fit.
So, we see from my earlier post that there is no basis on account of land ownership and anthropology for malays to claim this is malay lands. they are immigrants as anyone else!
On the historical perspective as I have shown in this post, we see there can be no malay claim wither!
Until the British arrived 90% of the peninsula was empty and deserted, and no one, no ruler had a claim on it. State boundaries were drawn up by the British! The boundary between Malaya and Thailand were drawn up by the British and agreed by the Thais. The Straits Settlements were British lands which they graciously handed over to Malayans along with the demographic changes they introduced, including the large numbers of Indonesians that it attracted.
If rulership is a basis of claim, then perThis is because the monarchy institution or Malay Sultanates are closely linked to the Malay psyche,” he said.The Malays needed to identify their political and economic weaknesses and overcome them by doing soul-searching.
He said, remarks on Malay Supremacy cannot be made without substance or ego politics because the privilege had to be backed by continuous capacity and knowledge skills. When we are strong, then only we can say we are masters.
This has to be fine-tuned and a Malay leader has to show the capability and strength in politics.But if there are Malay leaders still buying votes to climb up, we will never be strong and respected as masters on our own soil,” he said.Rais said that in this regard, Umno, as a party for the Malays, had to be reshuffled and Article 3 of the party’s Constitution on the premises and objectives had to be embraced because it contained the real Malay agenda.In the constitution, the meaning of Malay itself has three basic conditions. Firstly, the individual has to be Muslim, secondly speak Malay and thirdly, follow the Malay custom,” he said.In terms of Bumiputera share in national wealth, Rais said the Malays had to reject the “at least 30 per cent ratio” and replace it with “the highest ratio possible”.Besides, he said, all policies affecting the Malays and indigenous people and Islam had to go through political vetting first before the government made decisions.Besides, Rais said, the Malays must stay away from elements that could weaken their image.He said that behind the current polemic, one positive aspect that had arisen was the move of the Malay Rulers who came forward to lend assistance when needed.”Perhaps, the Malay Rulers felt the calling to do so and we appreciate it. It seems, politicians in the country also welcome the move of the Malay Rulers,” he addedRais also called for a law enforcement system and policy which prevented certain quarters from continuing to dispute the rights and privileges of
THE OPINIAN THE RAAYAT HAVE SPOKEN
The voices from the street the people’s thinks you dirt baggae
i think rais is trying to stir some shiat. i think most of us (incl malays) are denigrating the umno fellas…and so happened u r one of them.
Rai, you had only said one thing right, we are not disparaging the big number of Malays, good Malays like Datuk Zaid and many! We may scorn at you Umno who have herds of pea brains and nerds! We are not talking about number to show our respect, we are talking about brain and good brains, fair-minded brain like you are lacking of are those we will respect! Race or right minded Malays are not in our category of denigrate and despised! ….For you and your breed, you deserve our salivas and our middle fingers! Na
Another ‘cow dung’ so afraid of his special rights being questioned. When his UMNO goon questioned the citizenship of the squatter chinese, he seem at ease with those remarks but now want the police to prevent ceratin quarters from continuing to dispute the special rights of the Malays. May I tell you Rais, the Malays are also immigrants and not the original bumiputras (original land owners).
If anything, the original land owners do require a helping hand economically but now it seems the special rights equate to across the board Malays being spoon fed like babies. I question this kind of racist policies and like minded Malays too will feel offended if we think the only way they can be successful in Malaysia is for government assistance. It would seem that those hardcore poor Malays are not benefiting from this special rights racist policy. The proof is out there and everyone knows it including Rais.
Now this reminds me of something someone once said…..
“The white men were roused by a mere instinct of self-preservation….. until at last there had sprung into existence a great Ku Klux Klan, a veritable empire of the South, to protect the Southern country.”
- Woodrow Wilson
God bless Malaysia, my home sweet home.
When people whack UMNO, it is whacking UMNO as a corrupt political party, not the race. Such difference ought to have been obvious to Rais even if it is not obvious to many other UMNO leaders. Rais’ implied call to add numbers to UMNO is the same like any other UMNO leaders bankrupt of ideas. Malays are not a monopoly for UMNO. Corruption drives away members. And to say that “sneers” are aimed at denegrading the Malays are the most dangerous and untrue thing that any UMNO upper rung leader has said so far – because it sounds like he’s trying to establish provocation, and hence further usage of Sedition Act and ISA.
It’s a crying shame that Rais has decided to stoop so low into the politics of race to win his Vice PresidencyIt is an open secret that the malays have lost their dignity in the eyes of the non malays, even a subject of ridicule. This is not new but has been so since the 60s. It just got worse lately after the Moorthy case.But its just that the non malays, born of giving face, do not have the gumption in them to tell it outright. They expect malays like YOU Rais to tell the malays so.
But you’re still playing the numbers and history game instead of principles. See how low you have gone Rais! you don’t gave the guts to tell malays that they cannot fall back on historyBut at least you got one thing right in stating that ‘Malay supremacy is actually the sovereignity and privileges of the Malay Rulers’.Here we go. Malays are not sitting back and letting things rot. Umno is also trying to get back what it lost. Numbers make the difference indeed and it is such numbers that Anwar could not get on Sept 16 (discussed in story above) that would make or break the PR in the near future! Ohlala! Umno Supreme Council member Datuk Seri Dr Rais Yatim has called for the strengthening of Malay politics through numbers so that other races will stop denigrating and ridiculing the Malays.No it is not te Malay. It is directed to the UMNO leeches and it is not coming only from non-Malay but other Malay as well. You racist please refer to all these good people that there to challenge you as Malaysian. Please return all the ill gotten money to us.“Umno Supreme Council member Datuk Seri Dr Rais Yatim has called for the strengthening of Malay politics through numbers so that other races will stop denigrating and ridiculing the Malays”.What a joke. The “other races” aren’t denigrating and ridiculing the Malays. If they did, they’d be hitting Keadilan and PAS as well. But they aren’t. The other races are for the first time in their lives, actually speaking up following decades of suppression under UMNO supremacist policies. What the other races have essentially done is to put a mirror up to UMNOputeras, so that they can see what they have become. Sadly, instead of trying to improve, they are in denial, and are becoming worse than ever.So now you want numbers. What do you propose? A captive breeding program for woulThe malays or the general population have given UMNO/BN more than 50 yrs to manage the country. What have U guys done? Well, to fool everyone especially the malays by malay leaders. Looks like it is a question of not enough $$$ in the bank. UMNO leadership is like a dynasty, taking turns to rip off the rakyat. Now tell me how our PM kids can get so rich via govt contracts, 30% equity affirmative policies. What happen to the mass malay/bumiputra population? Come mon Rais, U are not that stupid, U are just an old fox that still wants to rely on old tricks to fool the malays. It is the malay leadership that is corrupt that has stiffle malays progress & U are part of it. Which malay minister(except Zaid) dare to question the manner things are done? Don’t blame the malays for not supporting. Rightly the malays have send a strong message, do U guys care to clean up. NOO. Guess what we even have a chap being arrested by Australian authorities & made a minister. What a joke a big slap to the malays integrity. Malays are not simple minded people but guys like U with such mentality, I would vote for the opposition.
Mr. Rice anak Yatim,
You’re finished as a politician!
Is this all you have to provide a leadership for the Malaysians?
Just becos you’re in the twilight of your career, you don’t have to whip up racist sentiments.
Nobody denigrated or insulted Malays – only Umno and their racist/fascist ideas bent on plunder, in the name of “Ketuanan Melayu”!
The poor Malays have been hoodwinked for fifty years – and many still don’t realize what they have lost, by giving up their rights, conscience, culture & humanity.
You guys have perverted the course of democracy & justice by rendering the constitution a worthless piece of paper.
You have belittled the parliament by having all mighty governments and closed door meetings between your allies.
Now you have the cheek to tell Malays that they are being insulted by others?
Get out of your denial Syndrome and face facts Rais – you guys are such shameless losers!!
You say, “the Malays must stay away from elements that could weaken their image”.
I agree – they should abandon Umno, just as Umno has abandoned them for money!
Rais is afraid that a lot of malays are beginning to see that the umnoputras are making use of them instead of helping them. Therefore more and more are going to Pas and PR.
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Shit.
Shame on you
Err … Why wont the non malays look down at DUMNO malays , even there are malays out there who also looks down on the DUMNO malays. Sick and unfit goons who runs this beautiful nation aiming for disaster. This bigot Rias seems more interested to increase the quantities of cows and buffalos in DUMNO and not its quality to be fair to serve the people and the nation irregardless of race and ethnic towards Bangsa Malaysia. Another imbecile
Rais the biggest racist martha farker. Rais, nobody is questioning your Malay rights. It is UMNO who is ridiculing themselves. You stupid Rais.
You think you are intellectually strong. Fark you.
This Rias is another idiot who has the kampong mentality that the malays must have the numbers.Numbers for what? The people is agianst umno and its crooks not all the malays!For a Minister he ought to know better then to play this racial card but as one recently written blog this lap dog would bow so low to kiss the hand of the bodoh pm.This guy realy needed a job that’s all.Another mother#@%$ of umno driving a wedge against the non malays by letting his interlectual shits out of his mouth.
UM-No is the hypocrite king! You guys started the racial issue in this country and yet you morons blaming other races ridiculing the Malays. We the rakyat has waken up and the day Um-No falls six feet under ground we will start laughing until our teeth falls off.
The Malays lost dignity and direction because of UMNO. The new breed of Malays should realised that by now and pull out from UMNO before its too late.
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